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RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician?
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:28:59 +0100 (BST)
I suppose you lined up in my sights as Poster-child of the moment for the "tolerant of all but Americans" crowd. Being a Yank in Canada (where one can be "anything-Candaian" - so long as it isn't American-Canadian - and recieve on outpouring of societal support) I am more than a little sick of the popular hobby of using ideals that I hold very dear to insult me and everything I believe in.
If your ideals are wrong, then that's not too surprising. So, are your ideals wrong? Again, you've extrapolated from "I'm glad I'm not American" to "tolerant of all but Americans". You folks really need to get a grip on your socks - not everyone loves you, and not everyone hates you. Many folks are very happy to live where they do, in the regime they're used to, in the climate they're accustomed to, and we're pretty much indifferent to whether Americans want a dozen guns per family and are willing to put up with the concomitant level of gun crime. See, it doesn't affect us.
It would be fun to hear folks swapping their usage of "American" and other nations in conversation. Would thier mouths be capable of forming the words "The rich history and culture of America" or inversely "thank the lord I am not [French/British/Pakistani/Korean/...]"?
Certainly I can say "The rich history and culture of America". Irony is something we Brits are good at.
The fundamental values of equality and reason that I believe are core aspects of my national culture are being used incsincerely by people to justify thier self-satisfying inequitous and irrational views.
If only. At the core of your national culture is a "all men are created equal" document written by slaveholders; slavery persisted for several decades after these principles were "adopted". Talking about "reason", you have a significant percentage of population (even a majority?) who believe that the world was created in seven days, six thousand years ago.
It's always so interesting to find the hypocrisy at the base of the self-styled Enlightened. "All cultures are good, all people are great- except for that group over there!". On behalf of myself and my culture - in a manner that fits with your evolved worldview - have a Nice Time as you go fuck yourself. :~)You're an American, aren't you. I can tell.Hey, I'd hate to communicate with you in a way your deeply-held prejudices would not accept. You know us stupid mouth-breathing Americans are not sophisticated enough to deliver our negative opinoins through oblique references filled with insincere pleasantries designed to let us save face in all possible situations. Just have to use simple little words to say what we really think and hope those of the Greater Cultures can put up with us...
Hey, you're really getting better at this irony stuff! _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician?, (continued)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Richard M. Smith (Aug 28)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 29)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Chris Blask (Aug 29)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 29)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Chris Blask (Aug 29)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 30)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Chris Blask (Aug 29)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 30)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Alex Eckelberry (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Aug 29)
- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Chris Blask (Aug 29)