Re: When are we going to start profiling? WAS RE: Don't spend too much time in the bathroom...PLEASE

[Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>]

What an amazing coincidence that you will never wake up tomorrow  
matching all of these traits, despite matching at least two (male,  
western educated especially in Engineering), likely a third (18-35),  
possibly even a fourth (devout). I dare say, by your own metrics, you  
might arguably be majority terrorist. Please bend over.

The only elephant in the room is that out of ten billion passenger- 
flights in the last decade, and even more over the last thirty years,  
only a couple dozen passengers have actually been the bad guys we need  
to stop.  Building a discriminator that can find one terrorist out of  
two hundred million passengers is like building a machine that can win  
the lottery. Good luck.

Of course, you can decrease those odds by increasing the number of  
terrorists, perhaps with...full body cavity searches executed  
repeatedly against the people you identify most likely to attack you?   
Brilliant




On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:52 PM, "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net> wrote:

> The overall absurdity of this thread just continues to prove the  
> point that engaging in security theater and making everyone  
> miserable doesn’t work, wastes lots of time and $, and is inconvenie 
> ncing the mass of travelers in order to not offend a tiny minority.
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> No-one has a RIGHT to get on an airplane (or to enter an airport,  
> for that matter).
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> While not all Muslim males aged 18-35 are suicidal terrorists,  
> virtually ALL suicidal terrorists and airplane hijackers in the last  
> 40 years have been Muslim males aged 18-35. Therefore, being a lot  
> more stringent in screening Muslim males aged 18-35 is more likely  
> to catch a would be terrorist than randomly selecting those to be  
> more deeply screened. There should still be some random selection of  
> the rest of the population, but, given the profile of the latest  
> attacker, and the profiles of the 9-11 hijackers, just about  
> everyone who fits the following profile:
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> Male
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> Muslim
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> Devout
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> Western Educated, especially in Engineering
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> Should have a full body cavity search before being allowed on an  
> airplane.
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> If that offends them, then maybe they (and realistically, it is only  
> the Islamic world that can end the scourge of Islamic terrorism)  
> will do something about the funding of radicalizing Madrassas and  
> firebrand clerics that are at the root of the whole problem.
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> This “Equality and non-discrimination” garbage is ignoring the  
> elephant in the room, and like the rest of the left’s agenda, makes  
> everyone equally miserable, without accomplishing its stated goal.
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> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec- 
> bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of RandallM
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:05 AM
> To: funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Don't spend too much time in the  
> bathroom...PLEASE
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> Can we change the subject field? This is also kinda of a personal  
> matter with me. Yes, I do take medication.
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> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:07 AM, <funsec-request () linuxbox org> wrote:
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> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:07:33 +0200 (EET)
> From: Juha-Matti Laurio <juha-matti.laurio () netti fi>
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Don't spend too much time in the bathroom...
> To: david.a.harley () gmail com, funsec () linuxbox org
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> Here:
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/26/2009-12-26_foiled_terror_plot_aboard_northwest_flight_253_sparks_strict_security_rules_for_.html
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> Juha-Matti
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> --
> been great, thanks
> RandyM
> a.k.a System
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