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Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate!
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:48:22 -0500
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:28:27 +0200, Gadi Evron said:
Take vaccinations for example. They are in the vast majority safe, and if the populaton isn't innoculated, rather than the person, shit happens. And yet the entire industry just insists they are PERFECTLY SAFE. NO RISKS. NO DISCUSSION.
Odd, I recently got my seasonal flu shot - and wasn't permitted to get it till I had read a nice little handout that listed the common and uncommon risks attached to it. Yeah, had the muscle soreness warned about, and no, didn't have the allergic reactions, but had been warned what to look for.... But when you start looking at the *actual* risks, and realize that the poor person is more likely to get killed in a car accident on the way to/from the clinic to get the shot than to have serious life-threatening side effects, what *do* you do to make Joe Sixpack want to do it? Advertise it as "no risk", or attach lengthy disclaimer comparing the actual risks with things like driving to the clinic, with enough explanations of statistics so the person can evaluate it? Remember Gadi - you're trying to get that guy who asked you "Do you want fries with that?" yesterday to get the shot. What do you tell him?
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