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RE: How much security does $1 trillion buy?
From: "Alex Eckelberry" <AlexE () sunbelt-software com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:38:27 -0400
It's worth noting that Chamberlin vastly overstated the abilities of the Third Reich and had MPs literally cowering in their seats, buttressing the argument for appeasement. It's kind of what happened in the Bush administration, but as a converse -- the power of Germany was overstated in order to argue for appeasement, instead of war. (The truth was that Hitler's Germany was not nearly as powerful as everyone thought and that the Czechoslovak army was at a complement, strength and morale exceeding the German army. But the European powers sabotaged the ability of the Czechoslovak government to fight through the Sudetenland arrangements made between France, Italy, Germany and the UK -- the Munich Agreement/Dictate. Etc., etc., long historical discussion could follow but I'm on a short leash time-wise) Sadly, overstating the strength of a foreign power is not entirely uncommon. And it's never been a very good idea in the long-run. Iraq, a tattered, run-down nation, with a mad dictator who himself hated Al-Qaeda. One truly wonders. Alex -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Drsolly Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:01 PM To: Brian Loe Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] How much security does $1 trillion buy? On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Brian Loe wrote:
On 8/1/07, Rick Wesson <wessorh () ar com> wrote:the point is... as a nation we had a choice to go to war.We have the choice to continue letting the blood run on the streets or
ban motor vehicles. We have the choice to ban all tobacco products. We have the choice to refuse medical services to those who can not afford it, emergency or otherwise, or who are suffering from self-inflicted injuries or sicknesses. We have the choice to defend innocence, wherever it may be found, facing the brutality of evil regimes wherever they may be found. Yes, this generally means going to war. So I have to join Dennis in asking, whats the point? Question: If England had went to war with Germany when Churchill FIRST
called for it, way before England was attacked and just after Poland was invaded, would you complain about the costs of that war?
Your grasp of history is breathtaking. That's exactly when we did go to war against Germany - a couple of days after the invasion of Poland. I thought everyone knew that. Evidently there's at least one American who doesn't.
Did it cost more to go to war later rather than sooner? Hard to say, but just
in lives lost and and the damage done to London I would have to believe Churchill was trying to save some money...
Since yout assumption about when England went to war is historically incorrect, your question doesn't arise. If you want to be taken seriously as an analyst of events, you have to get those events correct. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- How much security does $1 trillion buy? 'Richard M. Smith' (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Dennis Henderson (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Rick Wesson (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Brian Loe (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Brian Loe (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Andy Sutton (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Drsolly (Aug 01)
- RE: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Alex Eckelberry (Aug 01)
- RE: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Drsolly (Aug 01)
- RE: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Alex Eckelberry (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Brian Loe (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Drsolly (Aug 02)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Rick Wesson (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Dennis Henderson (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Brian Loe (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Drsolly (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Brian Loe (Aug 01)
- RE: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Alex Eckelberry (Aug 01)
- Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Brian Loe (Aug 01)
- RE: How much security does $1 trillion buy? Nick FitzGerald (Aug 01)